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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2008, 03:16:14 pm »
I'm confused. So are you guys saying that BET is not where 'we'  should look for good black journalism? Why not interview Obama? Hell he was just in Van Nuys down street from the Valley location. Now that the autopsy is behind him interview Jan Adams. Are is that simply out of the realm of what BET does now? Is more about the Chris Brown's and Bow Wows of today?
If people are not shown anything with depth where will they turn to it for it? I know the demograhics are the yougins but I would like to see them educated in more than surface stuff. At 25 we knew solid facts and the majority of the people on this board can't try to fool me into believing you didn't otherwise you wouldn't be doing the things you're doing know.
Maybe it's just me being old and lost again but where do you first if not BET?


Cheirel, they interviewed Obama 2 weeks ago.

May I suggest a nice dose of Blackploitation to ease your mind. The directors cut of Black Caesar and Sheba Bay should make everything melt away. ;D

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2008, 07:48:56 pm »
I'm confused. So are you guys saying that BET is not where 'we'  should look for good black journalism? Why not interview Obama? Hell he was just in Van Nuys down street from the Valley location. Now that the autopsy is behind him interview Jan Adams. Are is that simply out of the realm of what BET does now? Is more about the Chris Brown's and Bow Wows of today?
If people are not shown anything with depth where will they turn to it for it? I know the demograhics are the yougins but I would like to see them educated in more than surface stuff. At 25 we knew solid facts and the majority of the people on this board can't try to fool me into believing you didn't otherwise you wouldn't be doing the things you're doing know.
Maybe it's just me being old and lost again but where do you first if not BET?


thank you, good posts.  I can tell you what you said is important by being currently in college. 
I can tell you about my generation with no problem and you hit the nail on the head with that one.

It seems like everyone on here is so quick to shoot other ideas down instead of just listening.
They would rather ban than hear anything they don't want to hear.  They got their minds made up
way before you tell them anything.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2008, 09:47:32 am »
That would be God.

Bullsh*t. Unless he's having conversations with burning bushes. Even then, Coates should tell us what was said.


You can learn that by simply checking out the Bible whether in print, on audio, or on the Internet:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=1&version=31

This is same Bible that says the following are worthy of God's wrath:

Greed

"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

1 Timothy 6:10

Covetousness

"You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

Exodus 20:17

Pornography

"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Matthew 5:27-28

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Corithians 6:9-10

Premarital Sex

"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body."

1 Corithians 6:18

Murder

"You shall not murder."

Exodus 20:13


"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment."

Matthew 5:21-22

These sins are glorified in many of the music videos and even reality TV shows aired on BET.  So, Rev. Coates is calling the network's output for the evil it is.  This is really to benefit BET's bigwigs who will have to face God for their sins unless they repent and receive salvation.

So, in terms of eternal destination, the onus is now on BET.  Rev. Coates has done his job by his warnings through protests.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2008, 09:53:26 am »
Ok what has any of this has to do with BET coverage of Obama's presidential run? Some of yall really do come off as crazy sometimes. I mean is it really that deep?

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2008, 10:10:29 am »
Sharpton has come under tremendous scrutiny for his critique or Rap and other aspects of Black pop-culture. The difference is that besides the instances of opportunism there is almost 2 decades of substantive civil rights activities here in NYC to lend credibility to his stance.


That's a weak argument.  Martin Luther King is still taken more seriously than Sharpton despite the former lacking 20 years of civil rights activism.

So, Rev. Coates' protesting the immorality promoted by BET should not be dismissed because he's younger than Sharpton.  King was younger than Coates when he also exhorted Black America to confront the immorality in our community instead of ignoring or embracing it.  Read this sermon that King gave back in 1957:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/King//publications/papers/vol4/571205-001-Things_We_Must_Do.htm

It's Sunday, so I am not allowed to respond to this in an appropriate manner. 8)


Actually, God holds you accountable for everything you say 365 days per year.

"But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

Matthew 12:36,37

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2008, 10:11:23 am »
Ok what has any of this has to do with BET coverage of Obama's presidential run? Some of yall really do come off as crazy sometimes. I mean is it really that deep?

God's Word is applicable to all things including TV programming and presidential elections.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2008, 01:41:25 pm »
Ok what has any of this has to do with BET coverage of Obama's presidential run? Some of yall really do come off as crazy sometimes. I mean is it really that deep?

God's Word is applicable to all things including TV programming and presidential elections.

zeraze

Since this is the standard of Pastor Coates code of morality for Broadcast media we can also expect similar protests over the depiction of homosexuality, fornication and nudity on other Networks as well right?

Since a hallmark of Coates contention is that Black people are not a monolith he should be aware that Black youth watch programming on other networks depicting activities that are not in line with the strictures of the Bible.

Get ready HBO, SHOWTIME, CINEMAX and the BIG 3 , Pastor Coates is on the way to bring you salvation.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2008, 04:12:30 pm »
You can learn that by simply checking out the Bible whether in print, on audio, or on the Internet:

I see. You are apparently a scripture-quoting fundamentalist. Okay.

Well, even if one accepts for the sake of argument that the Bible is the infallible word of God, I believe there is some interpretation required. Unless you've got some verses on television to cite.

So then if you agree that we're operating in the realm of human interpretation, let's talk about it. Given that people of the book can't even agree on which day is the Sabbath, it seems to me that there is certainly plenty to discuss.

All that to say, it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask Rev. Coates or you to specify your expectations.
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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2008, 04:40:47 pm »
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that ranyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment."

Matthew 5:21-22
So, Coates, WAOD, Afronerd et al are all going to be subject to judgement? Because picketing a sister's house and spewing bile against a brother makes them seem pretty angry. Sweet.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2008, 04:46:18 pm »
So, Rev. Coates' protesting the immorality promoted by BET should not be dismissed because he's younger than Sharpton.  King was younger than Coates when he also exhorted Black America to confront the immorality in our community instead of ignoring or embracing it.
But King preached on the problems in his own community while preaching on the problems it faced from the larger power structure of the country, something that required genuine bravery, and cost him his life, as he knew it probably would. Has Coates shown anything on this level of courage to earn our respect, and to make it look less likely that this is just an oppurtunity at self-promotion? Has he shown the courage to tackle a genuinely dangerous subject? Seriously, Fiddy isn't about to try to shoot Coates, and Debra Lee isn't going to release the hounds on him.

I'm not saying this is what is definitely going on, but I find it more likely than him being the succesor to MLK's crown.

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Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2008, 05:02:32 pm »
Sharpton has come under tremendous scrutiny for his critique or Rap and other aspects of Black pop-culture. The difference is that besides the instances of opportunism there is almost 2 decades of substantive civil rights activities here in NYC to lend credibility to his stance.

That's a weak argument.  Martin Luther King is still taken more seriously than Sharpton despite the former lacking 20 years of civil rights activism.

So, Rev. Coates' protesting the immorality promoted by BET should not be dismissed because he's younger than Sharpton.  King was younger than Coates when he also exhorted Black America to confront the immorality in our community instead of ignoring or embracing it.

It's true that the argument you dispatch here is weak. It's also a straw man.

I think that JS's point was that even Sharpton with his 20 years of civil rights activism lending him some credence, still came under fire in that arena. That was in rebuttal to your claim that no one complains about Rev. Sharpton's complaints.

The upshot is that Rev. Coates will have to stand solely on the merits of his arguments. Good luck with that.
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