Redjack, don't take this personally, but I didn't even bother to read your latest response to me. Your psuedo-sophisticated sophistry bores me. Your thinly-veiled antisemitic attitude appalls me.
The United States bears its fair share of the responsibility for the Holocaust. This, you cannot deny.
Wow. Just keep digging that hole. You obviously don't know when to stop. If you persist I'm really going to have to spank you. Now you're calling me an anti-semite? God, talk about boring.
You read them. You read every word and then got so outraged you had to spew your ridiculous theory yet again. It doesn't work, moron. Not only is it inconsistent internally and ahistorical it's too cartoony to withstand contact with actual reality.
Now, frankly, I'm only engaged in this with you because your ignorance is irritating. But, since you persist, let's take the boy to school. Pull up a chair and pay attention this time.
While no one has disputed the fact that the US kept out a large number of Jews during the period, what you consistently fail to acknowledge is that this was in no way pointed or special. The US routinely denied and continues to deny access to peoples fleeing horrible tyranny all over the world. That is our right as a sovereign nation-state and it is ABSOLUTELY morally proper for us to have and exercise that ability. moreover, internally, the US was not only an apartheid state but was engaged in its own eugenics programs in various regions. It should be noted that these programs were pointed not only at ethnic groups (of whcih jews ere not one) but also at whites who where, for whatever reason, deemed "genetically undesirable or inferior."
Your own figures set the US's self-created quota at around 27000, i beleive (didn't go back to look at the exact figure). Also by your own numbers the US accepted 21000 of those refugees. That leaves roughly 6k out in the cold. Sad for those 6, no question, but hardly evidence of bias towards that specific group. The quota is not meant to describe the number the US is REQUIRED to take but to set the number it should not exceed. There's a difference.
What you have failed to comment on because you don't know or because you don't care is the the numbers of other ethnic groups who were admitted/ barred during that period and in the intervening time. The reasons you omit this data are twofold.
1) as i said, despite your protestations about being involved with mankind, all you really care about is the Jews. Which is why I keep having to remind you of the other 6 million people the Nazis ran through the meat grinder. You don't mention them because they don't matter to you. That makes you a liar, Sin. And a bit of a ethnicist yourself, despite your lofty claims.
2) on some level you know your moralistic posturing is both unsupported and, frankly, idiotic and so you do whatever you can to hide the fact that the totality of the real facts don't support your position.
Yes. We saved the world, idiot. So did the Brits. So did the Russians. The one statement doesn't obviate the others.
Now, you myopic child, here are some salient dates and attendant facts that not only undercut your bullsh*t moralistic stance but put a stake through the heart of the notion that anyone was singled out for negative treatment.
1892- Ellis Island opens for business.
1903- the US makes rules restricting the access of ANYONE entering the country via the Mexican border.
1907- THIS IS BIG SO PAY ATTENTION IDIOT The US enacts several laws and reorganized the South Western states in order to stop the flow of immigrants crossing in from Mexico.
1917- 24 - Stack of acts limiting and further regulating ALL immigration including the establishment of ethnic and national quotas.
1940 - immigrants are now required to carry identification marking their status
1950 - Internal Security Act - Birthday of the modern GREEN CARD which was used as a means of IDing immigrants and, if they weren't carrying one, used as the primary reason for booting them out.
1968- AGAIN, MORON, PAY ATTENTION - this was the year the US acknowledged its traditionally racist immigration policy and DID AWAY WITH IT (sort of)
1976 - US stops giving preferential treatment to immigrants from Western states. (ah, now we're getting somewhere)
There's more, lots more in fact, but this is sufficient. There is NO WAY any healthy mind can look at the clear pattern of racist refusals in US immigration policy, a policy the US itelf eventually acknowledged and moved to fix, and make the case that somehow the jews fleeing persecution in Germany were singled out for mistreatment. They were not. Clearly. That's reality. It's not my opinion. It's not the result of "anti-semitism." It is simply a fact. Okay? You're done. Fold it up and walk away.
I'm not an anti-semite, idiot. I have no feeling about semites one way or the other as is clear from my complete indifference to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. BOTH sides are semites. You get that, right? Indeed, I consider such descriptions of peoples to be archaic, even anachronistic. Semites are, according to tradition, the children of Shem, a fictional construct, who is the son of Noah, another fictional construct who is based upon another fictional construct called Utnapishtim. No one is actually a semite because there was no such person as Shem. Those who deem themselves to be semites are genetically indistinguishable from one another. I am acquainted with reality, you see. I don't generally waste time on hating groups that don't actually exist.
If you want to go on believing in fairy tales and taking enormous moralistic stances based upon those tales, be my guest, but now you don't have the excuse of ignorance of the actual facts. Ignorance, in itself, is nothing to be ashamed of. Everybody is ignorant of something. It's easy to correct. Either you dig yourself for the new data or somebody does you the favor of telling you.
You have just been told. You are not ignorant anymore. Now, if you keep making the same mistake, it is because you are stupid which is something that is not as easily fixable.
This was over when I told you it was over and it's REALLY over now.