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« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2009, 08:59:30 am »
So even with the new DTV regs, I have to subscribe to basic cable to get QAM thru the USB/PCI-E tuner card?  I have no roof antenna, and I'm not sure where a rabbit ears is going on a flat screen TV...

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Re: Any PC freaks?
« Reply #76 on: April 08, 2009, 10:12:11 am »
So even with the new DTV regs, I have to subscribe to basic cable to get QAM thru the USB/PCI-E tuner card?  I have no roof antenna, and I'm not sure where a rabbit ears is going on a flat screen TV...

I don't know for sure.  It depends on the model of card you have.  If you have one of the latest Hauppage models, you may be able to get the DTV signal...if your card isn't DTV ready, then yes, you'll have to get basic cable.  If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)

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« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2009, 01:37:36 pm »
If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)

Uh, yeah. This. Explain to me why I need Salvation Army rabbit ears on a $500 flatscreen HDTV to watch Survivor!!!

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« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2009, 02:58:41 pm »
If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)

Uh, yeah. This. Explain to me why I need Salvation Army rabbit ears on a $500 flatscreen HDTV to watch Survivor!!!

That's the easiest question on the thread and you already know the answer!  ;D

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« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2009, 08:28:52 am »
QUESTION!!!

My PC keeps freezing every two hours or so. Is it possible that's because it's overheating? I took out the TV tuner since it was generating unnecessary heat, but my video card gets piping hot. Either way, I need some advice about how to cool it down - keeping in mind that HTPCs aren't exactly known for being big.

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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2009, 12:08:41 pm »
It sounds like a heating problem, but the same thing could occur if your CPU is overtaxed or there's a problem with the power supply or if the power supply is not powerful enough to support the devices in the system.  Are there any processes that are taking up a lot of CPU time when it happens?  Even though, I know you know the difference between the two, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask whether or not you checked the sleep/hibernation setting on the box.

If it's a heat problem then the simplest thing to do is to make sure the area your PC resides in is in a well ventilated place.  Make sure there's enough room under the chassis to encourage air flow.  The next thing you can do is see about adding a cooling fan or a wider heat sink assembly to the PC, usually another fan or two can do the trick.  If you want high-end cool, you can look into getting a water cooling solution.  There's a great article on them here.

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« Reply #81 on: July 17, 2009, 04:34:29 am »
Overheating..  could be several problems or one problem. Work through them.

The freezing is because the video card is overheating.. why its overheating however could be from several problems or just one it all depends..

First as was suggested it could very well be too small a power supply.. You could download Speed fan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php and if your hard dirve is S.M.A.R.T. which most new ones are then you would be able to monitor a number of temperature sensors and see where the heat is coming from. However if your PS is not putting out enough voltage or amperage then that’s a good indication of what is going wrong. From what you have posted on your system I’d say 650 watts is a min. for your system.

Secondly overheating.. from too little ram. Not enough ram will result in your processor working too hard thereby producing heat exponentially more than usual. If its Vista then 4gb is a min for serious PC’s. XP should have at least two but more than 4 is unnecessary since XP doesn’t recognize ram over 4gb’s well. 

Third your Vid card’s fan may be failing or its heat sink may have become unattached or it may be simply failing. You could try it in another PC and check it or else you could try a less expensive card (which will draw less amperage) and see if the problem remains. Also if it’s a 8500 or higher make SURE you have the latest drivers installed.

Fourth cooling fans and ventilation.. fans draw lots of voltage though so it’s a trade off.. Adding fans will help but it puts you back to the first suggestion. Can your power supply handle more devices.

So there ya go..
1)   Power supply inadequate
2)   Not enough Ram
3)   Video card failure
4)   Not enough cooling…

It’s one or more of these issues. You just need to find which one it is.

As a note still another reason this may be happening is due to over clocking.. if you over clocked your processor then you need to bring it back down.. instead of over clocking try increasing your ram voltage. Your Motherboards bios may need updating and check your multiplier in your Motherboards bios and make sure you haven’t set it too high.  I’m not a big fan of over clocking since its really unnecessary unless your are running multiple applications while playing a video intensive game and downloading massive amounts of porn at the same time then over clocking just makes your PC work a lot harder then it needs to

Lastly your motherboard may be failing.. but I’d wait to make sure its not one of the other reasons before getting to this one.

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« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2009, 04:05:26 am »
I'm all but certain it's a cooling issue. RAM is 4 GB, power supply is 600W. not only is the video card getting too hot, but the fan is loud as hell. I have a Z-machine GV1000 VGA Cooler coming, so hopefully that'll help. And is there any way to remove the fan from my video card and replace it with another? Mine is loud as hell.

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« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2009, 07:48:53 am »
I'm all but certain it's a cooling issue. RAM is 4 GB, power supply is 600W. not only is the video card getting too hot, but the fan is loud as hell. I have a Z-machine GV1000 VGA Cooler coming, so hopefully that'll help. And is there any way to remove the fan from my video card and replace it with another? Mine is loud as hell.

It shouldn't be making that much noise.. you fan blades may be bent or coming in contact with the fan blades protection enclosure.. or else the ball bearings may be faulty in which any of these cases the fan will not perform well and cause the card to overheat. You can replace the fan but you will need the correct sized replacement fan and you will need to unseat your old fan.. (many times these are glued in place which means you will need to re-glue the new one..) if you are lucky you vid card's fan is clipped in place instead.. at any rate there should be a two wire snap in connector for the fan which will disconnect it.. like I said however un-gluing it is the tricky part be careful not to damage the card.

Is you card still warranted? If so I'd get a replacement one.. on my latest PC  build I went with fanless vid cards.. which instead have a nice large heat sink these seem to be better since I too have had problems with the cheap fans they put on video cards.

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« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2009, 09:07:21 am »
I've heard good things about the Zalman VGA coolers..  But they may be overpriced.

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« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2009, 11:08:15 am »
Yeah if you're going to spend the bucks for a good vid cooler then I'd forget the cards fan altogether.. just unplug its connector and turn it off.. or even better if you can find a heat sink that fits (an older PC's processor heat sink you have laying around is a good place to look) or you can even get custom heat sinks from places like here http://www.alphanovatech.com/cat_cst.html not sure on the price though..  then glue in a heat sink in place of the fan.. at any rate the vid cards fan again should not be making all that racket so something isn't right with it..

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« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2009, 08:55:44 pm »
I believe Zalman is Korean for "how much disposable income do you HAVE, anyway?" My case is an HD135. I didn't pay full price for it, but I would have. I love it that much. I can't figure out how the hell to get my media reader to read my SIM card, but I love it anyway. :)

Got the cooler installed. It's quiet enough, but for the cost of this thing, if I can honestly keep my video card cool w/a fanless cooler, I'd like to go that router. I'm looking at this one - not because of the price, but because the reviews are very, very solid. But how cool will it really be? Cool enough to overclock? I haven't even started w/that yet, and I've been talking about it since last September. Is it really okay to turn the fan off on this GV1000?

BTW, thoughts on taking out the 3.5" hard drives and replacing them w/laptop drives?
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« Reply #87 on: July 25, 2009, 11:31:54 am »
thoughts on taking out the 3.5" hard drives and replacing them w/laptop drives?

why? laptop drives usually have lessor rpm speeds, cost more for the memory size.. and fail more often.

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« Reply #88 on: July 26, 2009, 07:44:03 am »
I was thinking in terms of generating heat, but you make good points, especially since all my drives are 7200 RPM and two of them are 1 TB. Never thought I'd see the day where my drives are 1 TB, but they're becoming quite cheap.

My PC hasn't frozen ONCE since I got that Zalman card, so I'm muy happy. Watched movies all last night and I didn't hear it. It comes w/a fan controller, so I just turn it up when I play games and turn it back down when it's time to watch movies. Now all I have to do is figure out how to keep my processor icy cold, then I can start overclocking at long last. Whoo-hoo!

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« Reply #89 on: July 28, 2009, 03:47:19 pm »
2TB HDD capacity?  What the hell are you downloading????  The entire fall lineup?!?   

And in a HTPC case to boot???  I'd describe you as whatever comes after "fearless" but I can't think of the word.   :D