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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2009, 07:48:16 am »
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What can we do to save this book? We seriously need to come together, spread the word out, etc. This is highly disheartening. 

Aside from the kind of net-campaign we saw for Agents Of Atlas, I cant think of anything.

It worked in that case.

...but Atlas is canceled.
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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2009, 11:30:59 am »
#3

Wow, is this book exciting or what?! My mouth nearly dropped when Jericho learns that all the Magical people he's been supervising are now under Nightmare's control due to his realm. And I nearly cheered to see the Ghost Rider brothers appear! Wow.  :o

So least we know now that Daimon is just being controlled by Nightmare as he's controlling everyone else. I like the reintroduction of Doom to this story arc. This will make it a more complete arc reading when collected. Just an overall exciting read. I will say though, it does seem to irk me to see Jericho's plans sorta turn against him, but it's definitely leading to an interesting place and am willing to see how well this goes in the end will Jericho finally rises up and wins the battle. He's obviously capable of winning the day, but he's being overwhelmed greatly and this is all very new to him.

I also LOVE that this isn't just a series about Jericho. Daniel seems to be the co-star of this series also as he plays a big part in this issue and seems it's him and Doom who will first team up against Nightmare using Jericho's body. If he could take control of Daimon's body, he could certainly retain Jericho's body, thus becoming Brother Voodoo as he was originally before Jericho took the mantle.

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2009, 02:14:09 pm »


BAD-FREAKIN'ASS!!!!   :o :o :o

DOCTOR VOODOO: THE ORIGIN OF JERICHO DRUMM ONE-SHOT #1

COVER BY: Billy Tan
WRITER: Roy Thomas
Len Wein
PENCILS: Gene Colan
ALEX MASSACCI
INKS: Array
COLORED BY: Tom Chu - A
THE STORY:
Youíve witnessed his incredible reemergence in the pages of New Avengers, now take a trip through the voodoo virtuosoís career in this special presentation of STRANGE TALES #169-170. In the shadowed back alleys of New Orleans, they speak his name in awe, for Ďtis said he was old when the mountains were young, that he cannot be harmed, that he can never DIE! His name is DOCTOR VOODOO! Experience the birth of Marvelís new Sorcerer Supreme like never before, fully remastered with modern coloring. Plus, an all-new framing sequence by Roy Thomas and Alex Massacci. Rated T Ö$4.99

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2009, 02:32:34 pm »
#3

Wow, is this book exciting or what?! My mouth nearly dropped when Jericho learns that all the Magical people he's been supervising are now under Nightmare's control due to his realm. And I nearly cheered to see the Ghost Rider brothers appear! Wow.  :o

So least we know now that Daimon is just being controlled by Nightmare as he's controlling everyone else. I like the reintroduction of Doom to this story arc. This will make it a more complete arc reading when collected. Just an overall exciting read. I will say though, it does seem to irk me to see Jericho's plans sorta turn against him, but it's definitely leading to an interesting place and am willing to see how well this goes in the end will Jericho finally rises up and wins the battle. He's obviously capable of winning the day, but he's being overwhelmed greatly and this is all very new to him.

I also LOVE that this isn't just a series about Jericho. Daniel seems to be the co-star of this series also as he plays a big part in this issue and seems it's him and Doom who will first team up against Nightmare using Jericho's body. If he could take control of Daimon's body, he could certainly retain Jericho's body, thus becoming Brother Voodoo as he was originally before Jericho took the mantle.

Daniel is most properly Jericho's partner.  Prior depictions of the character made it seems as if he could not act on his own.

This seems more interesting.

I mean Daniel could concieveably possess some poor bystander (at worst) or some coma patient
somewhere(at best) and go about his business. Also if Daniel was a B.V. in the past he can presumably
still use magic (I guess he'd have to have a body to do it).

That what makes the situation at the end of #3 really cool its Daniel (who possesing Son Of Satan) vs. Nightmare (who's possessing Jericho)!

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2009, 05:14:38 am »
Preview for the Doctor Voodoo: Origin of Jericho Drumm one-shot

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4094&disp=table

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2009, 02:04:58 pm »
I picked up Issue #3, read it, but I'm just not feeling this. I'm not a big fan of Dr. Strange (though I liked the animated film), and knew very little about Brother Voodoo, now Dr. Voodoo, but I wanted to support him anyway. But the story didn't really grab me. I got the first issue, forgot about the second, but tried to catch up with the third. It seems like DV is always getting his ass whipped. This thread is filled with DV fans. Could someone enlighten me about what's so great about DV?


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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2009, 07:02:30 am »
Jericho Drumm's a great character and has potential to be worked on given that there aren't definitive stories with him yet. He has a great hook and the religion of vodou is amazing and vast. One of the abilities that Voodoo has is the ability to communicate with the Loas of Vodou for help and guidance. With the different Loas out there combined with the skills he has already brings a great dynamic and great possible ideas for stories. The stories of the Loas themselves in the regular Vodou religion are all very interesting and appealing and could bring many things to the table that casual Marvel readers aren't used to. Then you have the fact that his twin brother is practically a ghost who follows him around and is the second half of him as together they make up the overall hero.

A big thing with the character also is the fact that he's a psychiatrist who previously hated the vodou lifestyle. This could also bring great conflict of whether he wishes to continue with this lifestyle or not and could bring great tension with him and his brother. From reading his first adventures, I especially loved the drive the character had to just help people in need. The guy fought hard and would find intelligent ways to overcome the challenges.

I feel that although it seems Remender is writing Voodoo as "getting his ass whooped" you have to remember in the very first issue he defeated Dormammu and was heavily weakened. He hasn't slept in over a weak and was defeated by Doom with his powers stripped and he's also feeling as if something messed up his head in the second issue (I forget the medical term used). So a lot of him not actually coming out on top would be that Voodoo isn't even in his top prime and strength to actually really fight. I do like that in a way as I find it a device to build the character up and see what he's about besides great power levels, etc.

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2009, 07:23:56 am »
The thing is, characters that suceed tend to be smash/blast heroes; heroes with easily understood powers.  Dr. Strange had a couple of runs, but he couldn't hold a title for 40 yrs like most of the other Marvel title characters created in the 60s.

The odds that DV could hold a title for "40 yrs" is doubtful.  But he could do a few years worth.

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2009, 08:27:36 am »
I picked up Issue #3, read it, but I'm just not feeling this. I'm not a big fan of Dr. Strange (though I liked the animated film), and knew very little about Brother Voodoo, now Dr. Voodoo, but I wanted to support him anyway. But the story didn't really grab me. I got the first issue, forgot about the second, but tried to catch up with the third. It seems like DV is always getting his ass whipped. This thread is filled with DV fans. Could someone enlighten me about what's so great about DV?

Brother Voodoo is, in my opinion, a pretty interesting third tier character with lots of untapped potential. Iím glad to see him getting shine. I just didnít want it to be at Doctor Strangeís expense.

I see them operating completely differently. Doctor Strange is secretive. B.V. operates openly. Heís not just a sorcerer, since Vodou is a religion he is essentially a RELIGIOUS LEADER.  And if you are the master of Vodou in Haiti you are officially the scariest dude in Haiti. Nobody there is going to eff with him. Not the cops, not the crooks, not the military. Nobody.  His mansion should be safe haven for political dissidents and folks looking for healing.

Why isnít the book doing better?

Well, Doctor Strange is a Lee/Ditko creation that had a series that lasted around 100 issues.

Internally he's is one of Marvel's perpetual B-listers (like Silver Surfer and Namor). Because of this he regularly gets a shot at a solo book.

Brother Voodoo (who just should have been called Dr. Drumm BTW) doesn't have that same pedigree. Created in the 70's, short lived series, etc. So all he gets is a series of guest appearances in niche books like Moon Knight and Black Panther.

His appearances in New Avengers were probably the first time many fans had ever seen the guy.

Comics fans have a hard time investing in characters, concepts, they haven't seen before.

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2009, 10:18:01 am »
Thanks guys. I picked up the Dr. Voodoo one-shot to get more info on the guy, but I haven't read it yet. More than likely I'm going to continue supporting DV while it lasts because its one of only two Marvel titles headlined by a black hero and I want to support that. There's only a handful of black headliners left, DV, BP, Azrael, and Unknown Soldier. I can't think of any others.

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2009, 01:12:30 pm »
#5 will be the final issue.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10785.doctor_voodoo~colon~_facing_his_nightmares

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When the evil Nightmare tries to take control of the entire world in DOCTOR VOODOO: AVENGER OF THE SUPERNATURAL #4, on January 20, writer Rick Remender and artist Jefte Palo will have to help Jericho Drumm face the bad dreams of everyone on Earth.

"I like the potential of Nightmare," explains Remender as to why he chose the villain for Doctor Voodoo's first foe. "He controls a power I've coined as 'the unreal.' I also needed to use characters that were well known, so their power levels were also understood and you clearly knew what Jericho was up against his first day on the job. When you hear that Jericho is up to his eyes in Nightmare, Doctor Doom and Dormammu, you know he's in for a bad time. Had we opened with a new character it wouldn't have had the same impact. The way it's all planned out, it will ultimately also help to establish the power levels of Ogoun, the new big Voodoo-specific villain who we got a glimpse of in issue #3.

"Beyond the practical reason to use traditional big time supernatural villains, I love the characters. Nightmare and Doom are both tremendous fun to write. One is the living embodiment of all of mankind's worst fears and terrors, an unlimited potential for psychological horror. The other is-well, the other is Doom."

In the latest issue of DOCTOR VOODOO, Nightmare claimed to have manipulated Brother Voodoo's ascension to the role of Sorcerer Supreme, adding to the uncertainty Drumm feels in his new position.

"Jericho never felt worthy," remarks Remender. "Who would? You'd have to be some kind of megalomaniacal egotist of the highest order to be handed that job and think you're in any way ready. Jericho has done his best to maintain everything in the face of a nasty bad band of trouble. The effect of what Nightmare is putting him through is pure psychological terror: Being handed the keys to the Eye of Agamotto the same day Earth
DOCTOR VOODOO: AVENGER OF THE SUPERNATURAL #4 preview art by Jefte Palo
is infested with the things of nightmare. However, when pitted against great odds, a strong man will display his inherent morality and move beyond the desire to simply live to see tomorrow and opt for the greater good. There is no such thing as a hero, only brief shining moments of valor from men and women who endeavor against instinct to overcome great terror. Jericho will have to earn his reputation."

All the changes going on in the mystical world, such as the coming of a new Sorcerer Supreme, have allowed Nightmare the opportunity to bring such an ambitious plan to fruition and assert his power over the mortal plane.

"Transition of power, a new guy in charge, and Nightmare has been planting seeds for this in Jericho's dreams for years," lists Remender. "How did he know Jericho would be chosen? There is more going on than the eye can see."

Remender likes to play with both large-scale, Earth-shattering conflicts, as well as smaller, more human concerns for Doctor Voodoo.

"I think you can do both successfully with the character," notes the writer. "I think his life as a doctor in New Orleans and as Houngan Supreme offer smaller scale human complications while the Sorcerer Supreme mantle will obviously put him in harm's way from larger sized threats."

Once this arc wraps up, however, fans can expect another change in Doctor Voodoo's status quo.

"While the series is concluding with issue #5, Jericho is very much a part of the Avengers universe and will continue to be a presence in upcoming events," promises Remender.

Before that, though, Doctor Voodoo has to make it out of his final issue in one piece.

"Issue #5 is going to be a blast," vows the writer. "Everything that happened in the first four issues pays off big. Many of the things readers thought were just happenstance or smaller, insignificant moments turn out to be major plot points. It'll be a lot of fun to hear reactions to the final issue."


Preview art for #4









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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2009, 05:10:09 pm »
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Exactly. Maybe once this is gone we will get what we really need...another X-Men book.  ::)

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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2009, 11:17:59 pm »
It's really tough to make a "magic" book work.  Hard to lay out rules that a reader can follow.  But this series did pump up his profile in a big way.  That's good.

That said, looking at Blade, War Machine, Dr. Voodoo...it's really hard to sustain any comic, especially one with a black character.  I feel very fortunate about my run with Black Panther.
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Re: Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2010, 05:18:25 am »
#5 will be the final issue.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10785.doctor_voodoo~colon~_facing_his_nightmares

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When the evil Nightmare tries to take control of the entire world in DOCTOR VOODOO: AVENGER OF THE SUPERNATURAL #4, on January 20, writer Rick Remender and artist Jefte Palo will have to help Jericho Drumm face the bad dreams of everyone on Earth.

"I like the potential of Nightmare," explains Remender as to why he chose the villain for Doctor Voodoo's first foe. "He controls a power I've coined as 'the unreal.' I also needed to use characters that were well known, so their power levels were also understood and you clearly knew what Jericho was up against his first day on the job. When you hear that Jericho is up to his eyes in Nightmare, Doctor Doom and Dormammu, you know he's in for a bad time. Had we opened with a new character it wouldn't have had the same impact. The way it's all planned out, it will ultimately also help to establish the power levels of Ogoun, the new big Voodoo-specific villain who we got a glimpse of in issue #3.

"Beyond the practical reason to use traditional big time supernatural villains, I love the characters. Nightmare and Doom are both tremendous fun to write. One is the living embodiment of all of mankind's worst fears and terrors, an unlimited potential for psychological horror. The other is-well, the other is Doom."

In the latest issue of DOCTOR VOODOO, Nightmare claimed to have manipulated Brother Voodoo's ascension to the role of Sorcerer Supreme, adding to the uncertainty Drumm feels in his new position.

"Jericho never felt worthy," remarks Remender. "Who would? You'd have to be some kind of megalomaniacal egotist of the highest order to be handed that job and think you're in any way ready. Jericho has done his best to maintain everything in the face of a nasty bad band of trouble. The effect of what Nightmare is putting him through is pure psychological terror: Being handed the keys to the Eye of Agamotto the same day Earth
DOCTOR VOODOO: AVENGER OF THE SUPERNATURAL #4 preview art by Jefte Palo
is infested with the things of nightmare. However, when pitted against great odds, a strong man will display his inherent morality and move beyond the desire to simply live to see tomorrow and opt for the greater good. There is no such thing as a hero, only brief shining moments of valor from men and women who endeavor against instinct to overcome great terror. Jericho will have to earn his reputation."

All the changes going on in the mystical world, such as the coming of a new Sorcerer Supreme, have allowed Nightmare the opportunity to bring such an ambitious plan to fruition and assert his power over the mortal plane.

"Transition of power, a new guy in charge, and Nightmare has been planting seeds for this in Jericho's dreams for years," lists Remender. "How did he know Jericho would be chosen? There is more going on than the eye can see."

Remender likes to play with both large-scale, Earth-shattering conflicts, as well as smaller, more human concerns for Doctor Voodoo.

"I think you can do both successfully with the character," notes the writer. "I think his life as a doctor in New Orleans and as Houngan Supreme offer smaller scale human complications while the Sorcerer Supreme mantle will obviously put him in harm's way from larger sized threats."

Once this arc wraps up, however, fans can expect another change in Doctor Voodoo's status quo.

"While the series is concluding with issue #5, Jericho is very much a part of the Avengers universe and will continue to be a presence in upcoming events," promises Remender.

Before that, though, Doctor Voodoo has to make it out of his final issue in one piece.

"Issue #5 is going to be a blast," vows the writer. "Everything that happened in the first four issues pays off big. Many of the things readers thought were just happenstance or smaller, insignificant moments turn out to be major plot points. It'll be a lot of fun to hear reactions to the final issue."




Preview art for #4









 :( :'(


Darn it all to heck! I was just getting into this  >:(
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