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AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« on: November 30, 2009, 04:55:44 am »
An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore

Monday, November 30th, 2009

Dear President Obama,

Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do -- destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they've always heard is true -- that all politicians are alike. I simply can't believe you're about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn't so.

It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around. That's the way General Washington insisted it must be. That's what President Truman told General MacArthur when MacArthur wanted to invade China. "You're fired!," said Truman, and that was that. And you should have fired Gen. McChrystal when he went to the press to preempt you, telling the press what YOU had to do. Let me be blunt: We love our kids in the armed services, but we f*#&in' hate these generals, from Westmoreland in Vietnam to, yes, even Colin Powell for lying to the UN with his made-up drawings of WMD (he has since sought redemption).

So now you feel backed into a corner. 30 years ago this past Thursday (Thanksgiving) the Soviet generals had a cool idea -- "Let's invade Afghanistan!" Well, that turned out to be the final nail in the USSR coffin.

There's a reason they don't call Afghanistan the "Garden State" (though they probably should, seeing how the corrupt President Karzai, whom we back, has his brother in the heroin trade raising poppies). Afghanistan's nickname is the "Graveyard of Empires." If you don't believe it, give the British a call. I'd have you call Genghis Khan but I lost his number. I do have Gorbachev's number though. It's + 41 22 789 1662. I'm sure he could give you an earful about the historic blunder you're about to commit.

With our economic collapse still in full swing and our precious young men and women being sacrificed on the altar of arrogance and greed, the breakdown of this great civilization we call America will head, full throttle, into oblivion if you become the "war president." Empires never think the end is near, until the end is here. Empires think that more evil will force the heathens to toe the line -- and yet it never works. The heathens usually tear them to shreds.

Choose carefully, President Obama. You of all people know that it doesn't have to be this way. You still have a few hours to listen to your heart, and your own clear thinking. You know that nothing good can come from sending more troops halfway around the world to a place neither you nor they understand, to achieve an objective that neither you nor they understand, in a country that does not want us there. You can feel it in your bones.

I know you know that there are LESS than a hundred al-Qaeda left in Afghanistan! A hundred thousand troops trying to crush a hundred guys living in caves? Are you serious? Have you drunk Bush's Kool-Aid? I refuse to believe it.

Your potential decision to expand the war (while saying that you're doing it so you can "end the war") will do more to set your legacy in stone than any of the great things you've said and done in your first year. One more throwing a bone from you to the Republicans and the coalition of the hopeful and the hopeless may be gone -- and this nation will be back in the hands of the haters quicker than you can shout "tea bag!"

Choose carefully, Mr. President. Your corporate backers are going to abandon you as soon as it is clear you are a one-term president and that the nation will be safely back in the hands of the usual idiots who do their bidding. That could be Wednesday morning.

We the people still love you. We the people still have a sliver of hope. But we the people can't take it anymore. We can't take your caving in, over and over, when we elected you by a big, wide margin of millions to get in there and get the job done. What part of "landslide victory" don't you understand?

Don't be deceived into thinking that sending a few more troops into Afghanistan will make a difference, or earn you the respect of the haters. They will not stop until this country is torn asunder and every last dollar is extracted from the poor and soon-to-be poor. You could send a million troops over there and the crazy Right still wouldn't be happy. You would still be the victim of their incessant venom on hate radio and television because no matter what you do, you can't change the one thing about yourself that sends them over the edge.

The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can't be won over by abandoning the rest of us.

President Obama, it's time to come home. Ask your neighbors in Chicago and the parents of the young men and women doing the fighting and dying if they want more billions and more troops sent to Afghanistan. Do you think they will say, "No, we don't need health care, we don't need jobs, we don't need homes. You go on ahead, Mr. President, and send our wealth and our sons and daughters overseas, 'cause we don't need them, either."

What would Martin Luther King, Jr. do? What would your grandmother do? Not send more poor people to kill other poor people who pose no threat to them, that's what they'd do. Not spend billions and trillions to wage war while American children are sleeping on the streets and standing in bread lines.

All of us that voted and prayed for you and cried the night of your victory have endured an Orwellian hell of eight years of crimes committed in our name: torture, rendition, suspension of the bill of rights, invading nations who had not attacked us, blowing up neighborhoods that Saddam "might" be in (but never was), slaughtering wedding parties in Afghanistan. We watched as hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were slaughtered and tens of thousands of our brave young men and women were killed, maimed, or endured mental anguish -- the full terror of which we scarcely know.

When we elected you we didn't expect miracles. We didn't even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn't even function as a nation and never, ever has.

Stop, stop, stop! For the sake of the lives of young Americans and Afghan civilians, stop. For the sake of your presidency, hope, and the future of our nation, stop. For God's sake, stop.

Tonight we still have hope.

Tomorrow, we shall see. The ball is in your court. You DON'T have to do this. You can be a profile in courage. You can be your mother's son.

We're counting on you.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. There's still time to have your voice heard. Call the White House at 202-456-1111 or email the President.


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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 06:48:02 am »
Well.


Sounds like THAT prom date didn't end up at the motel, did it?

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 08:42:06 am »
Almost nothing is funnier to me than cognitive dissonance.

Moore should be smart enough to know that Obama had said from the beginning of his campaign that we should have gone to with Afghanistan and not Iraq. Hillary thought the war was where it was supposed to be. McCain‘s only problem with war was that there wasn’t enough of it in general (hence his hysterical overreaction to Russia’s attack on South Ossetia).

Obama was never anti-war; he was anti-war in Iraq but PRO WAR IN AFGANISTAN.

It Moore wanted an anti-war candidate that would have been Dennis Kucinich. Not that he would have ever had a chance in hell to get elected but there you have it.

The brother ran as a lefty centrist, he got elected as a lefty centrist, so why the hell is Moore or anybody else surprised when he governs like a lefty centrist?

Moore is beginning to sound like the guys who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and thusly handed over the Presidency to Bush.

All that Obama is attempting to do fix GWB’s errors while simultaneously drag America civil society (pretty much kicking and screaming) into the 21st century.

He never promised to take on the military industrial complex and he had he would never have gotten elected (and he might be very well dead now on top of it). 

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 08:42:36 am »
I agree with Mr. Moore.

"It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around."

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 09:17:48 am »
I agree with Mr. Moore.

"It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around."

I agree with you both. Folks treat Obama like he's Christ are God himself. He's just continuing down the same path as the crazy christian witchdoctor, Bushy Bush. Oh, no you can't criticize this war hungry nut in front of Blacks. Blacks will lynch you if you do that. We love us some Obama, cause he's going to save us from ourselves. Different skin same Bullsh*t! YUKA! ;D

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 10:38:08 am »
I agree with Mr. Moore.

"It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around."

The only difference between McCristal and Obama is methodolgy. They only disagree on how many troops to send and what they should do when they get there.   

See nobody here is saying that you can’t criticize Obama. My point is: criticize him for breaking his campaign promises-you can’t coherently criticize him for keeping them. I will bash Obama all day long for not tearing down the wall of state secrets, rendition and torture that GWB built because that he did promise to do that.

But if Obama said on the campaign trail that we are going into Afghanistan and we actually go into Afghanistan how the hell can Moore be surprised?     

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 10:47:09 am »
My point is: criticize him for breaking his campaign promises-you can’t coherently criticize him for keeping them. I will bash Obama all day long for not tearing down the wall of state secrets, rendition and torture that GWB built because that he did promise to do that.      


After the vote on the Health Care Bill has convened, will President Obama proceed to give enemas to those more deserving. :)

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 11:05:31 am »
My point is: criticize him for breaking his campaign promises-you can’t coherently criticize him for keeping them. I will bash Obama all day long for not tearing down the wall of state secrets, rendition and torture that GWB built because that he did promise to do that.      


After the vote on the Health Care Bill has convened, will President Obama proceed to give enemas to those more deserving. :)

I dunno.

Folks lost thier damn minds at the very suggestion of closing Gitmo and holding civilian trials for terrorists.
India could hold a civilian trial for Ajmal Kasab but we here are scared witless of doing the same.

I am not sure that the average American is really all that interested in the exercise of Demorcratic values in practise. 

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 01:03:37 pm »
Moore has some very good points, BUT as pointed out...Obama *said* clearly that he was going to war in Afghanistan. I remember this clearly being one of his talking points.

The situation in Afghanistan is dire. They should have done this 9 years ago, now they (T and A) are thoroughly entrenched. It's almost a lose, lose situation for him.

He leaves, and it things get worst it's his fault. He stays and it's his fault.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 09:15:16 am by Seven »

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 11:36:08 am »
The situation in Afghanistan is dire. They should have done this 9 years ago, now they (T and A) are thoroughly entrenched. It's almost a lose, lose situation for him.

He leaves, and it things get worst it's his fault. He stays and it's his fault.


Disagree.

I believe we'll get a better idea exactly what the long term strategy will be after his announcement tonight, then we can speculate further.

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 05:19:33 pm »
Moore is a self-righteous ass I tolerated because he criticized Bush. Obama's job is safe guarding America not appeasing kum-ba-ya liberals.

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 06:46:01 am »
Off-Topic:

Speaking of safe guarding America,

The President of the United States is the top diplomatic representative of the free world. There are individuals who would like nothing better than to disrupt this concept because their way of life is in chaos by walking right up to the Leader of the Free World and punching him in the face or even worse
---killing him.


We cannot have unauthorized individuals trespassing in on a White House state dinner reserved for kings, queens, prime ministers, top military officials, diplomats, cabinet members and proceeding to tell the world about it on FACEBOOK
---with f*ckin' pictures no doubt! >:(

American blacks have historically had public executions assasinations commited on every black person who has ever demonstrated any leadership role in the United States.

When I first cast my vote for the first African American president, I knew things would never be the same again and my worst fears and suspicions would be that this man would be the number one person on the list to be assasinated for wanting to serve his country and the change in our democracy that I believed in would be lost to incompetence, treachery and downright evil.

I am recommending an official charge of trespassing and any other offense revealed in the investigation of this wayward couple who commited the most heinous act that no other individual in the world could do.  No one in this forum could  do what this foolish couple did.    No one.
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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 09:02:46 am »
Moore is a self-righteous ass I tolerated because he criticized Bush. Obama's job is safe guarding America not appeasing kum-ba-ya liberals.

While I agree that Moore is being kind of hysterical, Obama’s got a problem: He’s been in office barely a year and he’s managed to piss off progressives and gays. And if this current unemployment situation gets any worse BLACKS will soon be done with him.

He’d better do more at the jobs summit than just talk and health care (in ANY form) had better pass. Or he won’t have a constituency left. The moderates who voted for him only did so because the idea of a McCain presidency (especially with Palin as his Veep) was too horrifying to contemplate.

Obama might want to start doing sh!t for the folks that actually got him elected if he wants to stay in office more than one term.

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 12:16:58 pm »
The situation in Afghanistan is dire. They should have done this 9 years ago, now they (T and A) are thoroughly entrenched. It's almost a lose, lose situation for him.

He leaves, and it things get worst it's his fault. He stays and it's his fault.


Disagree.

I believe we'll get a better idea exactly what the long term strategy will be after his announcement tonight, then we can speculate further.

The writing is on the wall. Vic pretty much laid out a lot of his issues...add this and he has really big problem. I'm a supporter, but I'm calling it how I see it. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't for him...

The thing is T and A have a very strong foothold in Afghanistan. They have had NINE YEARS to regroup. 9 years...Moore points about USSR is vaild. That is what happend. Now we just game them 9 years to plan?

All I'm saying, more Democrats and progressives want out of war. Americans are sick of it...but if he leaves...he looks weak, and if something else happends...it would be his fault. He is walking a very thin line...a balancing act..and Vic is right at some point he is going to need to choose.

This is only talking about war...the issue Vic brough up makes things worst.

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Re: AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FROM MICHAEL MOORE
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 12:19:18 pm »
Moore is a self-righteous ass I tolerated because he criticized Bush. Obama's job is safe guarding America not appeasing kum-ba-ya liberals.

I agree...

But I'm just pointing out his situation. It's pretty much damned if you do, and damned if you don't for him. The double standards for Obama is crazy.

I wish people would have had a back bone during the Bush years...most said nothing for about 6 years.