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« on: January 17, 2010, 08:38:14 PM »

So I rented it off Netflix this weekend...I like Adam Rodriquez...I like Taraji P Henson...but this was one of the worse movies I have ever seen in my life. I know Tyler has a formula but damn, it's like he didn't even try at all this time. This movie was essentially over 30-35 minutes in and you were painfully awaiting the inevitable and the inevitable was no fun getting there. I would give you the rundown but you already know the storyline...
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 09:02:22 PM »

You rented a Tyler Perry movie...and you're surprised that it sucked? Really?
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 05:36:24 AM »

The best part of the film was Henson. She never looked better. Never. Other than that, I've been supporting TP films but I'm about done with him. It's the same old stuff over and over again. I do want to see Why Did I Get Married Too, mainly because the first one was my favorite TP film. After that, I'm done unless he changes up the formula.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 03:41:05 PM »

You rented a Tyler Perry movie...and you're surprised that it sucked? Really?

I know but if he cared at all at this point in time you ought to be getting better instead of just scraping the bottom of the jar and taking a check. There are a million screen writers with good ideas dying to work with him. He could hire the same number up and coming directors...if he wanted. he should by trial and error be improving and in that a couple of his movies weren't too bad there is no excuse...
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 04:08:27 PM »

The best part of the film was Henson. She never looked better. Never. Other than that, I've been supporting TP films but I'm about done with him. It's the same old stuff over and over again. I do want to see Why Did I Get Married Too, mainly because the first one was my favorite TP film. After that, I'm done unless he changes up the formula.


When he did WDIGM I thought that was a sign he was progressing because it was fairly good...

I can do bad was bad. Can we start with that ridiculous wig they had on Adam at the start? His hair is not that texture. And why didn't someone call the police if grandma was missing? Why she had her purse and no id on the bus? Why did the villain HAD to be such a one dimensional monster: a racist, pedophile, abusive  and a cheat? Why the WHOLE community turned out for the BIG FINISH  wedding like it was Bey and Jay? And why....
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 05:18:56 PM »

I know but if he cared at all at this point in time you ought to be getting better instead of just scraping the bottom of the jar and taking a check.

Why tamper w/the formula that made him rich? Even I couldn't recommend such a thing.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 08:04:20 PM »

I agree. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Also I wonder if Perry doesn't want to make sure he maintains enough control over his empire.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 03:56:24 PM »

the wife and i are about to watch this film tonite.

i was told that you could see me in the crowd scene at the end (and this is from someone who i didnt even know i worked as an extra in the film) so that's the plan... play Where's Arvell.
i hope the movie is good.
i hear that it is.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 08:25:20 PM »

Umm dude you do know that we cant see your photobucket pictue...well at least I can't.^^^^^^
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 02:25:37 PM »

no...i can't see my picture either.
oh well.

anyway, we finally watched the movie/
wow. it was so not his best movie ... at all.

i dont know what the reviewers were smokin'...
it just didn't work for me.

why did i get married and the family that preys are still at the top for me.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2010, 01:10:46 PM »

So you guys saying don't try to get better? who doesn't want to be better Huh And there is a long line of folks who went to the same well one too many. Even Perry fans say they are bored with the sos... But even with the sos--just do it better...
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2010, 01:45:56 PM »

Most of us have a creative streak and of course most of us like creativity, originality, and getting better from any creator's works. But that doesn't always coincide with business models, especially if there is a successful formula. In his own way, TP has been trying to do things a little bit differently, with The Family that Preys and the upcoming Why Did I Get Married Too that looks like it might be a murder mystery, from the trailers anyway, but it doesn't make much sense for him to change it up if people keep buying tickets to support the formulaic stuff he keeps putting out there. If there's a dip in the box office, I think you'll see more changing it up from TP. But until then, I think he'll stick to the formula and I'm sure that Hollywood will want him to stick to that formula too.
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2010, 09:22:43 PM »

Most of us have a creative streak and of course most of us like creativity, originality, and getting better from any creator's works. But that doesn't always coincide with business models, especially if there is a successful formula. In his own way, TP has been trying to do things a little bit differently, with The Family that Preys and the upcoming Why Did I Get Married Too that looks like it might be a murder mystery, from the trailers anyway, but it doesn't make much sense for him to change it up if people keep buying tickets to support the formulaic stuff he keeps putting out there. If there's a dip in the box office, I think you'll see more changing it up from TP. But until then, I think he'll stick to the formula and I'm sure that Hollywood will want him to stick to that formula too.

Gotta disagree with you here.  The films where he tries to break his formula and do something different tend to under perform, WDIGM being the exception.  They don't flop, but they don't pull those Madea numbers.  I think that's really why he hasn't retired the character.  I don't think he can afford to.  That's why he won't make any significant changes to his approach to film.  He'll lose his core audience.  His core audience tends to be, no offense to any fans reading this, very conservative and narrow minded.  They don't seem to like change or to be challenged.  They gravitate towards the same old stories that justify their beliefs.  T.P. preaches to his choir extremely well.   

If you think about it, his distinct storytelling style has put him in a creative box.  He aimed at a specific audience and pretty much shut the mainstream out.  Now, nine films, all of which catered to his particular demographic, and the mainstream ain't really checking for him.  He has never broken out and showed the world that he can do something different.  It would be like if Spike Lee remade School Daze over and over.  This can work.  Just look at Woody Allen.  He hasn't had a mainstream hit in years, but he has no trouble getting his films made, because his small cinema snob audience will come out and support his movies.  But his audience tend to be more progressive than Perry's, so Allen can grow and do different things and they still come out.  Perry's fans...well...they want to see
1) a middle-aged man in drag
2) safe, easily digestible traumatic situations usually involving some trifling, abusive, dark-skinned man with pedophiliac tendencies
3) a long suffering woman
4) an obligatory church scene with a real life preacher
5) long musical interludes   
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 09:30:49 AM »

Most of us have a creative streak and of course most of us like creativity, originality, and getting better from any creator's works. But that doesn't always coincide with business models, especially if there is a successful formula. In his own way, TP has been trying to do things a little bit differently, with The Family that Preys and the upcoming Why Did I Get Married Too that looks like it might be a murder mystery, from the trailers anyway, but it doesn't make much sense for him to change it up if people keep buying tickets to support the formulaic stuff he keeps putting out there. If there's a dip in the box office, I think you'll see more changing it up from TP. But until then, I think he'll stick to the formula and I'm sure that Hollywood will want him to stick to that formula too.

Gotta disagree with you here.  The films where he tries to break his formula and do something different tend to under perform, WDIGM being the exception.  They don't flop, but they don't pull those Madea numbers.  I think that's really why he hasn't retired the character.  I don't think he can afford to.  That's why he won't make any significant changes to his approach to film.  He'll lose his core audience.  His core audience tends to be, no offense to any fans reading this, very conservative and narrow minded.  They don't seem to like change or to be challenged.  They gravitate towards the same old stories that justify their beliefs.  T.P. preaches to his choir extremely well.   

If you think about it, his distinct storytelling style has put him in a creative box.  He aimed at a specific audience and pretty much shut the mainstream out.  Now, nine films, all of which catered to his particular demographic, and the mainstream ain't really checking for him.  He has never broken out and showed the world that he can do something different.  It would be like if Spike Lee remade School Daze over and over.  This can work.  Just look at Woody Allen.  He hasn't had a mainstream hit in years, but he has no trouble getting his films made, because his small cinema snob audience will come out and support his movies.  But his audience tend to be more progressive than Perry's, so Allen can grow and do different things and they still come out.  Perry's fans...well...they want to see
1) a middle-aged man in drag
2) safe, easily digestible traumatic situations usually involving some trifling, abusive, dark-skinned man with pedophiliac tendencies
3) a long suffering woman
4) an obligatory church scene with a real life preacher
5) long musical interludes   

You nailed it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 08:56:09 AM »

Most of us have a creative streak and of course most of us like creativity, originality, and getting better from any creator's works. But that doesn't always coincide with business models, especially if there is a successful formula. In his own way, TP has been trying to do things a little bit differently, with The Family that Preys and the upcoming Why Did I Get Married Too that looks like it might be a murder mystery, from the trailers anyway, but it doesn't make much sense for him to change it up if people keep buying tickets to support the formulaic stuff he keeps putting out there. If there's a dip in the box office, I think you'll see more changing it up from TP. But until then, I think he'll stick to the formula and I'm sure that Hollywood will want him to stick to that formula too.

Gotta disagree with you here.  The films where he tries to break his formula and do something different tend to under perform, WDIGM being the exception.  They don't flop, but they don't pull those Madea numbers.  I think that's really why he hasn't retired the character.  I don't think he can afford to.  That's why he won't make any significant changes to his approach to film.  He'll lose his core audience.  His core audience tends to be, no offense to any fans reading this, very conservative and narrow minded.  They don't seem to like change or to be challenged.  They gravitate towards the same old stories that justify their beliefs.  T.P. preaches to his choir extremely well.   

If you think about it, his distinct storytelling style has put him in a creative box.  He aimed at a specific audience and pretty much shut the mainstream out.  Now, nine films, all of which catered to his particular demographic, and the mainstream ain't really checking for him.  He has never broken out and showed the world that he can do something different.  It would be like if Spike Lee remade School Daze over and over.  This can work.  Just look at Woody Allen.  He hasn't had a mainstream hit in years, but he has no trouble getting his films made, because his small cinema snob audience will come out and support his movies.  But his audience tend to be more progressive than Perry's, so Allen can grow and do different things and they still come out.  Perry's fans...well...they want to see
1) a middle-aged man in drag
2) safe, easily digestible traumatic situations usually involving some trifling, abusive, dark-skinned man with pedophiliac tendencies
3) a long suffering woman
4) an obligatory church scene with a real life preacher
5) long musical interludes   

You nailed it.

Yes he did, but I somewhat disagree with Woody Allen. Woody has branched out and made different types of films, but like you stated, when this is done he upsets his core fans, and he really doesn't show up on the radar of the mainstream either, so it's a lose-lose situation for him, as it will be if TP tries to do it, too, which is disheartening because there are tons of creative people wanting to work with him and he has all the resources to help other up-and-coming black filmmakers out, but because of his little corner he's painted himself into...this seems unlikely Cry
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