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Offline jefferson L.O.B. sergeant

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More Lex Luthor than Superman
« on: September 29, 2010, 08:08:52 pm »
The following revelation personifies everything I cite in my criticism of Charter schools as a whole.

Here is what education's SUPERMAN does when the model doesn't fit the rhetoric.

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/Bridging-Differences/2009/05/what_the_harlem_miracle_really.html

This is a moral disgrace of the highest order!

What person who truly cares about children and educating them would summarily dismiss an entire class of students just to fit a propaganda campaign?

I hope someone like Michael Moore, and to put him on the spot, Reggie, goes and interviews the students who were thrown out as well as their parents about Mr. Canada.

Better yet; maybe they can have those parents and students watch WAITING FOR SUPERMAN and ask them how they feel about the film.

P.S. I'm looking directly at you Curtis. 8) 

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 03:09:35 pm »
a local newspaper here interviewed the blog commentator, Diane Ravitch: http://www.freep.com/article/20100926/COL04/9260437/Champion-of-school-choice-is-taking-it-all-back

CNN/Anderson Cooper interview Connecticut's Steve Perry, last year- http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/category/steve-perry/
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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2010, 06:17:36 am »
from THE NEW YORK TIMES:

October 1, 2010
‘Waiting for Superman’ and the Education Debate
By BRENT STAPLES
Take along a handkerchief if you plan to see the new education documentary “Waiting for Superman.” Steve Barr, a tough-minded charter school developer, told me on Friday that he had already seen the film four times and still can’t get through it without sobbing.

Mr. Barr believes that the film has pulled back the curtain on a world that most Americans would otherwise not have seen — the desperation of parents who struggle, often in vain, to get their children into better schools. (The Superman in the title refers to one charter school operator’s childhood belief that the ghetto in which he lived might one day be rescued by the Man of Steel.)

Mr. Barr is unnerved by the cartoonish debate that has erupted around the movie. The many complex problems that have long afflicted public schools are being laid almost solely at the feet of the nation’s teachers’ unions.

In recent days, Randi Weingarten, the leader of the American Federation of Teachers (the nation’s second-largest teachers’ union after the National Education Association) has been portrayed on the Internet as the Darth Vader of public schooling. She talks like a union chief in the film — which makes no mention of her genuine efforts to work with school systems to promote reform.

The unions deserve criticism for resisting sensible changes for far too long and for protecting inept teachers who deserve to be fired. But at least in some places that is changing. And they are by no means responsible for the country’s profound neglect of public education until about 20 years ago when the federal government began pushing the states to provide better oversight.

For years, urban politicians ransacked districts with patronage and fraud. Teachers chose to unionize in part to protect themselves from politicians.

The movie scene that pains Mr. Barr the most features a mother whose kindergartner has been barred from her parochial school on graduation day because of unpaid tuition. The family lives just across the street, which means the child has to watch as her classmates arrive.

Like other mothers in the film, this one is determined to keep her daughter out of traditional public schools that she regards as substandard. She applies to a highly respected charter school that fills seats through an excruciatingly painful lottery system. The applicants gather in an auditorium. The winners rejoice; the losers weep.

Mr. Barr has witnessed this kind of heartbreak at close range since he founded a nonprofit charter organization called Green Dot Public Schools in Los Angeles in 1999. Progress is being made. But the country needs many more good schools and better teacher contracts.

Charter schools run on public money but are allowed to function independently of the districts in which they reside. Nationally, most charter schools do no better in terms of student achievement, and far too many do worse. Green Dot is one of the stars of this movement.

Despite the fact that many of its 17 schools serve desperately poor, minority neighborhoods, its students significantly outperform their traditional school counterparts, on just about every academic measure, including the percentage of children who go on to four-year colleges.

Public schools generally do a horrendous job of screening and evaluating teachers, which means that they typically end up hiring and granting tenure to any warm body that comes along. Like other high-performing charter operations, Green Dot screens teachers closely — which means they get higher-quality teachers to start — and evaluates them frequently, with the aim of making them better at what they do.

The hard work pays off, including in staff stability. Despite rules that make it easier to fire staff members, last year Green Dot administrators terminated only 7 of more than 420 employees.

The film’s director, Davis Guggenheim, gives Green Dot a cameo shout-out in “Waiting for Superman.” But he did the story a serious disservice by not pointing out that these high-performing charter schools are fully unionized.

The 16 schools in California are affiliated with the National Education Association. The one recently started in the Bronx was put together by Green Dot and the New York affiliate of the American Federation of Teachers. By rushing by this wrinkle, he sustained the sexy-but-mistaken impression that the country’s schools can’t move forward unless the unions are broken.

The real story is far more hopeful and more nuanced.


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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2010, 12:41:06 pm »
I'm happy the New York Times writer didn't add in the following inconsequential facts.

Only 17% of Charter Schools are successful.

Charter Schools do not outperform public schools.

The Vast majority of Charter Schools are backed by corporations for profit with public money. Yes, folks, a private school funded with public money.

Charter schools only serve 2% of the student population.

Charter schools are almost entirely unregulated and have NO uniform standards of practice for the hiring and dismissal of teachers. In short, inexperienced teachers plus high turnover, equals maximum profit.

Charter schools have the ability to screen their student population. Here is an example. Geoffrey Canada, aka SUPERMAN, has a charter school with 600 students. Of those 699 a whopping 7 are ELL students, that is a 1% ELL population. No Public school in NYC has a 1% ELL population.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your propaganda.

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 08:32:52 am »
Here is my issue:Urban Prep in Chicago this had every Black male senior accepted into a four year college--so where is the movie? where are their director's guest spot on Oprah? But oh, that's success. That's accomplishment, that runs counter to the narrative of wretchedness Hollywood is eager to fund. You will always find funding for a tale of woe but unless the savior is white a story like Urban Prep will not be hailed. Hollywood is looking for freedom Writers and Dangerous Minds not a Marva Collins or Urban Prep.

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 09:42:26 pm »
I can't wait to see the movie. I always say charter schools are like anything else. Some are great and some are crap. Just like public and private. You take the Manhattan schools public and fabulous until High School the same for Beverly Hills. But we all can't live there. Some of the private schools are horrible and at $30,000.00 a year you wouldn't expect this. But they do have some of the best fundraisers (saw VanHalen this way & the list goes on) because the actors, producers, riches rich, folks don't want their children to touch the other grimmy children. Ahhh in the middle we have the charter schools for the parents that want a good education from the state but you have to put in more work and there is no gurantee your child will get in.

I've done them all. It depends all the child and the school. Currently we are at charter with extremely high standards and teachers that are magnificent.There are 9 kids in my daughters spanish class. Her largest class has 15 students. Yes they screen their population but the same is true for private schools. My daughter almost didn't get into kindergarten once because only my husband went to a mass meeting while I was at work and the had made a "note" of that. They didn't like the reply of me saying I may miss another meeting if I need to work because they don't want their fat-ass check to bounce.



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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 12:47:53 pm »
P.S. I'm looking directly at you Curtis. 8) 

Since you are apparently deputizing me as the board proponent for charter schools,  ;)
I will say this:

No one is defending abuses and misconduct by charter school operators. I don't imagine you would want to take on the gargantuan task of defending the same from public schools. 

As I have said before, I am a proponent of school reform. I don't support widespread privatization of schools under the guise of charters although I do believe that charter schools have a role to play as laboratories and serving niches. Most students will be educated in mainstream public schools and a lot of them are wrecked and corroding. If the school systems are going to heal themselves, they/we need to get busy quick.

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 12:49:09 pm »
I always say charter schools are like anything else. Some are great and some are crap. Just like public and private.

I couldn't agree more.
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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 03:44:57 pm »
...But they do have some of the best fundraisers (saw VanHalen this way & the list goes on) because the actors, producers, riches rich, folks don't want their children to touch the other grimmy children.




Got a chuckle from that remark! ;D

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 05:27:54 pm »
...But they do have some of the best fundraisers (saw VanHalen this way & the list goes on) because the actors, producers, riches rich, folks don't want their children to touch the other grimmy children.




Got a chuckle from that remark! ;D

It's so true,. In Los Angeles we have some schools that charge more for 6th grade than I paid for a year in college. When did educating your child become such a rat race?

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 04:39:25 pm »

It's so true,. In Los Angeles we have some schools that charge more for 6th grade than I paid for a year in college. When did educating your child become such a rat race?




Well, what I thought was funny was that there are people so terrified of the 'grimey kids' that they are willing to pay tooth and nail to keep thier kids away from them.    ;D
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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 09:44:31 pm »
The things I have laughed at when I would get in my car everyday when my child was in private school each time. Of course she still misses it and doesn't always understand why some I wanted to get away for balance some times. The grimey kids never came in contact with the elite and I was just travelling on a day pass.

I saw somebody almost go into foreclossure before it was envogue to keep up appearances in one of these high tagged schools. Sadly the child really could have went to a public school for what was sinking in.

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Re: More Lex Luthor than Superman
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 04:28:59 pm »
The things I have laughed at when I would get in my car everyday when my child was in private school each time. Of course she still misses it and doesn't always understand why some I wanted to get away for balance some times. The grimey kids never came in contact with the elite and I was just travelling on a day pass.

I saw somebody almost go into foreclossure before it was envogue to keep up appearances in one of these high tagged schools. Sadly the child really could have went to a public school for what was sinking in.


Keeping the "Grimey children" out is the essence of the school privatization movement.

They routinely cherry pick students as to create the most optimal environment for standardized tests.

I hope some media entity that hasn't totally sold out charts the number of students that are dismissed at the beginning of December.

It is common practice fior Charter schools to get rid of "Underperforming" students before they have to take the standardized tests.