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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 07:14:09 am »
Could this film be a contemporary of "The Last Starfighter"? I think so!  :D

Well both Starfighter and Green Lantern are Lensman rip offs. Green Lantern was just more blatant about it.

That would be why they seem so similar.

But I always thought that was a good thing. 

My reasoning was that if a "Last Starfighter" can get made a "Green Lantern" could get made as well.

I guess it took this long for the FX to get caught up. 

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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2011, 03:39:12 pm »
I don't like Ryan as Hal and I don't like the new construct GL uniforms.  Hector Hammond is a bad choice for the villain.  DC is dropping the ball again but I think the video game may be cool. I fear this will be like the Spawn film.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2011, 01:38:23 am »
With the new Trailer, GL looks like it will be a credible condendah!!!



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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2011, 03:41:23 pm »
I wonder will there be easter eggs among the aliens shown, from other movies/comics/tv shows..  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 03:33:52 pm »
Checked out the film today. I thought it was decent. It was better than I expected, but I'm not sure that's saying much. The film wasn't as jokey as the first trailer suggested and Ryan Reynolds (while still not my favorite choice) did well enough in the role. Same with all of the actors, though some are not given much to do.

I never liked the look of the characters or designs from the trailers and other promotional work. It looks slightly better on film for me, but I still wasn't super impressed. Parallax plays better in the film, once his movie origin is explained, though I still don't care for his look. Stay after the credits, there's a tease for a potential sequel.

The film moved at a brisk pace, and it covered a lot of territory, but perhaps it breezed by so much stuff, the film didn't feel weighty enough for me. I never got that sense of dread that should've been permeating the film as Parallax steadily made his way across the galaxy. Some critics have derided the climax. I didn't think it was as much of a letdown as some other critics do, however, the CGI was shaky in spots.

If there is a sequel I would watch it, but I didn't leave the theater wishing there would be another sequel. Only Mark Strong's Sinestro left me wanting to see more of him. I don't think the film delivered on giving us enough memorable moments to make us want another sequel.


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I think because they covered so much territory so quickly, perhaps I missed some things or got confused, but early on the narrator (Tomar Re I think) tells about Abin Sur stopping Parallax, but after he escapes Ryut, it seems like the Guardians or Sinestro at least don't know who he is. It confused me. I also don't get why a being as powerful as Parallax wasn't in a more secure location. I summed it up to maybe not wanting guards to be tempted by Parallax. But why not have automated systems to make sure he is imprisoned or to keep people from haplessly coming across his cell?

I also didn't get why Parallax shifted from destroying Oa to going after Earth. What's the big deal about destroying the man who succeeded the man who captured you if you've already killed the dude that captured you? Parallax stated that once he consumed Earth he would have enough power to take on the Guardians, but there was no indication that he needed Earth at all before, and it felt like they just threw that in to shore up his other justification and to center the action on Earth. Plus, previously Parallax had just cut through Sinestro's hand-picked elite squad like it wasn't nothing. It didn't appear that he needed Earth to take out Oa to me. It goes back to the tired Earth in peril plot that too many sci-fi movies rely on. It's like audiences will only care if Earth is threatened. If the film had actually spent more time on Oa and fleshed out the Corps better I think that would've made non-GL affiliated audience care enough about Oa to have that be the center of the film.

Perhaps it was for cost reasons, or to establish Hal as a badass by having him take on Parallax alone, but that didn't make sense to me either. His training is far too brief before he quits the Corps and returns to Earth; didn't make sense to me because the Guardians let him keep the ring and the lantern. Seems like they would've taken it from him or he would've given it back to them. That would've made his decision to quit actually feel real. I also didn't care for Hal going to Oa just in time to stop them from unleashing Sinestro with the yellow ring on Parallax's ass to essentially tell them that he's going to take on Parallax alone. If you're going it alone, why the need to tell the Guardians anything, just go do it. Better yet, why not ask for their help? Why not demand it? And why wouldn't the Guardians override him? Seeing the Corps fight together to save Earth or Oa could've been an oh sh*t moment this film really needed.

As for Parallax overall I got mixed feelings. I sort of liked how they combined his story with Krona's IMO and I liked how he ripped the fear and people's souls right out, but I didn't care for the dirty cloud look. I don't think Parallax was the best villain to start out the franchise with. He's the type of villain you work up for. I wish they had followed Secret Origins more and had Atrocitus be the one who killed Abin Sur and have Hal and Sinestro work together to hunt him down.

As for others:
-Blake Lively did okay as the love interest Carol Ferris. I thought she and Reynolds had nice chemistry. Unfortunately I was looking at her character through the prism of what she is to become and I wished they had picked an actress with more edge. I can't see Lively being a credible villain, though she might look okay in the Star Sapphire bikini.
-Peter Sarsgaard as Hector Hammond. I thought he was creepy enough, though sometimes his delivery was weird. I didn't care for his makeup, but he turned out to be a decent villain.
-Angela Bassett as Amanda Waller. They didn't give her much to do, but her backstory does get told courtesy of Hammond's telepathy. Her fate was left unknown, but hopefully they will bring her back. And hopefully she'll get to be more villainous and calling the shots.
-Tim Robbins was okay as Hammond's disappointed father.
-The Corps: There wasn't much focus on them. Kilowog's one training scene was pretty much the long and short of his appearance in the film. Tomar Re didn't get much face time either. Sinestro got a little more. Regarding Sinestro, the after credits tease with him becoming a Yellow Lantern didn't make much sense since Parallax had already been defeated, and the reason for taking on the yellow ring was to combat him. I wish they had went more with the comics story of his fall. That could've been a good follow up film. But it appears that me might come out the gate evil in a second film.
-It was never explained why Abin Sur needed a starship. I thought I read somewhere that they would address that.
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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2011, 09:25:20 pm »
-Angela Bassett as Amanda Waller. They didn't give her much to do, but her backstory does get told courtesy of Hammond's telepathy. Her fate was left unknown, but hopefully they will bring her back. And hopefully she'll get to be more villainous and calling the shots.

Bassett didn't fit well for me.  Waller needs to be...thicker.  She's not only a hard ass but she can kick ass.  I didn't get that feeling from Bassett.

I was also surprised there weren't brief cameos by Guy and John.

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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2011, 10:36:27 pm »



SPOILERS!!!








Would it have killed them to have some kind of leadup to Sinestro taking the ring?
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2011, 06:27:32 am »
-Angela Bassett as Amanda Waller. They didn't give her much to do, but her backstory does get told courtesy of Hammond's telepathy. Her fate was left unknown, but hopefully they will bring her back. And hopefully she'll get to be more villainous and calling the shots.

Bassett didn't fit well for me.  Waller needs to be...thicker.  She's not only a hard ass but she can kick ass.  I didn't get that feeling from Bassett.

I was also surprised there weren't brief cameos by Guy and John.

The only actresses that I can think off the top of my head that might match Waller's dimensions are Mo'Nique and Loretta Devine. I think Angela Bassett, while not having the shape, has the steeliness to play Waller. I was more concerned about them finding an actress that could do that, instead of looking like Waller. I think Angela looks like she can kick ass to me. Though personally I wouldn't have minded them going with CCH Pounder, she did such a great job in the cartoons.

I heard that Nick Jones was supposed to be John Stewart, but I didn't see him in the film. Maybe his scenes were cut.

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2011, 09:08:24 am »
Havent seen the movie yet but i think i know why the reviews have been poor:

The last time Hal Jordan was interesting was when Gerald
Jones and Priest was writing him.
He was a near failure who booze issues nearly caused him to lose his piloting career and whose wanderlust kept him from ever holding down a real job (because once you have been to space, you stop giving a crap about petty earth stuff).

Becoming a GL was that guys salvation. Now that guy was
interesting.

Geoff Johns uber icon aint and what is worse he somehow
talked Warners into making a movie about his version of Hal.

The Marvel movies mostly work because the typical Marvel
hero is conflicted. But they picked the least conficted version of the least conflicted GL to make a movie out of.

That is why we keep hearing movie reviewers talk about how bland them main character is.

Renolds could have done really well playing Kyle the slacker who is forced by cosmic circumstance to man up for the first time in his life.

Had they used John Stewart the movie could have been
Brother From Another Planet in reverse, as you get a guy who is happier among aliens that his fellow Earth folk.

Guy Gardener would have been Space Rocky. A dude whose one shot at greatness lies in space becausee his luck on Earth has been so bad.

By using Hal DC shot themselves in the foot.

By using Johns' Hal they did it with a frigging shotgun.

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 09:18:26 am »
Havent seen the movie yet but i think i know why the reviews have been poor:

The last time Hal Jordan was interesting was when Gerald
Jones and Priest was writing him.
He was a near failure who booze issues nearly caused him to lose his piloting career and whose wanderlust kept him from ever holding down a real job (because once you have been to space, you stop giving a crap about petty earth stuff).





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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 07:56:28 pm »
...I'm glad that there was no Stewart cameo, it would likely have been an "unknown" cast.. eventually they can have a name actor..

..I wanted the movie to be longer- at least 2.5 hours.. I wanted to see a lot more training.. it seems like Hal had, what, all of 10 minutes worth? heh..

I'm unhip to Hector Hammond's history.. really, all of GL's rogues except Sinestro from the toons.. so what all can HH do in the comics? was he even a prominent foe?

were the Guardians all-cgi or were there motion capture actors?

..the 'Hot Wheels Rescue' sequence was cute, but I wonder was that also product placement?  ;)

I'm still not quite sold on the body-suit-energy-sinews approach to the outfit, but on screen it finally looked better than the early teaser..

..I wish we had seen more of the Checkmate operation (?), I'm surprised that Waller wasn't given a sequence of "okay what do we do about this Captain Green?"

the epilogue with Sinestro and the ring.. hmm... was he just trying it on for size? was he jealous that Hal stopped Parallax and wanted a power boost?  I guess we'll have to wait until part 2 to see how it is developed..

Next film, I also want to see the Red Lanterns..

I guess Alan Scott never existed here.. not that it was totally unexpected.. but could have been intriguing with an easter egg..
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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2011, 06:37:59 pm »
SPOILERS!!!


Agreed

...I'm glad that there was no Stewart cameo, it would likely have been an "unknown" cast...


More than "likely"...this is the guy who had the (cut) cameo:



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I wanted to see a lot more training.. it seems like Hal had, what, all of 10 minutes worth? heh..


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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2011, 03:10:15 am »
SPOILERS!!!


Agreed

...I'm glad that there was no Stewart cameo, it would likely have been an "unknown" cast...


More than "likely"...this is the guy who had the (cut) cameo:



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I wanted to see a lot more training.. it seems like Hal had, what, all of 10 minutes worth? heh..


Agreed.




Why was the cameo cut?  ??? The movie has over 52k at the time of this posting...if it gets a sequel, it will be VERY scaled back, budget wise, since the budget of the original was 200mil. I say, have a sequal featuring John Stewart using that guy, have it take place mostly on, and it could feature him vs a Manhunter or something.
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Re: GREEN LANTERN
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2011, 03:52:20 am »
It wasn't as bad as reviews are making it out to be, but there wasn't anything good about it either. My main beef with the film wasn't Ryan Reynalds, it was how ugly and dirty the cinematography was. Where Thor was bright and shining, Green Lantern was dull and dingy. The sets in X-Men: First Class were rich, opulent and distractingly well designed, Green Lantern's were mediocre, uninspired and belonged in low budget tv show. All the money must have gone to CGI cause the only thing pretty in the movie was Blake Lively and she wasn't in it nearly enough. Reynalds did a Roto-Rooter thing on the dookie monster at the end that was lackluster and kinda gross. The only constructs that were interesting were the Hot-Wheels track and the fighter jets he used to anchor himself against falling into the sun. All in all I could have missed it and not missed anything.