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Should all urban kids get free meals?
« on: August 17, 2011, 09:17:59 pm »
http://hypestyleshomebase.blogspot.com/2011/08/food-fight-httptinyurl.html

this federal pilot program, one of the start-up cities is Detroit.  I hope the program gets teeth.  Lots of children find their "only" meals during the day at school.  And yet, it has sparked quite a local controversy.  I hope, despite the pushback, the program gets to continue.
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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 11:16:18 pm »
America hates poor people. 

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 05:04:56 am »
I think it rather has more to do with America wanting parents to feed their own children.
Why try if the government is going to do it for you? Not trying to start anything just saying.

PS: Where did I heard that there is not such thing as a free meal? (lunch)
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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 05:49:03 am »
PS: Where did I heard that there is not such thing as a free meal? (lunch)




Chances are, that you probably heard that remark from a self proclaimed fiscal, social, ultra-conservative American white person.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 06:48:15 am »
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I think it rather has more to do with America wanting parents to feed their own children.
Why try if the government is going to do it for you? Not trying to start anything just saying.
Unfortunately there is some truth to this.
With these choices, I felt that the American black man only needed to choose which one to get eaten by; the liberal fox or the conservative wolf because both of them will eat him.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 07:50:54 am »
I think it rather has more to do with America wanting parents to feed their own children.
Why try if the government is going to do it for you? Not trying to start anything just saying.

Are you arguing that people are choosing not to feed their children? If so, I'll need a pile of evidence.

Beyond hating poor people, America thinks they are morally deficient. That's why they're poor.
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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 07:57:31 am »
I am for free breakfasts and lunch at schools.

If you take for granted the concept that the more time kids spend at school the better, then providing free breakfasts is a good way to insure early (or on time) attendance.

It become one less meal poor parents are on the hook for and for the kids its a chance to get an early start on the day.


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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 08:31:40 am »
What I am trying to gain an understanding is that if free/reduced lunch is the "only" form of food for the day then we wouldn't have alot of dead children? At one point these same kids didnt go to school yet between the ages of 1 and 4 give or take. Wouldn't these toddlers possibly die based on the lack of proper nutrition?
With these choices, I felt that the American black man only needed to choose which one to get eaten by; the liberal fox or the conservative wolf because both of them will eat him.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 08:57:14 am »
What I am trying to gain an understanding is that if free/reduced lunch is the "only" form of food for the day then we wouldn't have alot of dead children? At one point these same kids didnt go to school yet between the ages of 1 and 4 give or take. Wouldn't these toddlers possibly die based on the lack of proper nutrition?





Kids whose parent(s) can't afford to feed thier children aren't going to die from lack of sustenance  during the day while in school but they will  go hungry and starvation takes a toll on a kid's mental ability to focus and concentrate  during learning sessions.  Trust me, I know... from experience.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 09:25:00 am »
America, indeed, hates the poor.  There are penalties and roadblocks inflicted upon the poor for no other reason than that they're poor.  Call it Socialism or whatever -ism you wish, but no kid should ever go hungry in the "richest" country in the world.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 09:46:22 am »

Kids whose parent(s) can't afford to feed thier children aren't going to die from lack of sustenance  during the day while in school but they will  go hungry and starvation takes a toll on a kid's mental ability to focus and concentrate  during learning sessions.  Trust me, I know... from experience.
fair enough and I agree. But where I'm coming from are the days before they go to school: Ages 1-4 wouldn't these kids have health problems?
With these choices, I felt that the American black man only needed to choose which one to get eaten by; the liberal fox or the conservative wolf because both of them will eat him.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 09:52:27 am »
fair enough and I agree. But where I'm coming from are the days before they go to school: Ages 1-4 wouldn't these kids have health problems?



Now, you're going somewhere else in the discussion...

Let me just add:
I don't hate poor people but I strongly dislike those poor people who allow things to get so bad that they feel the need to kill  another person over a few dollars.  THAT I despise. >:(


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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 09:53:58 am »

Now, you're going somewhere else in the discussion...

Let me just add:
I don't hate poor people but I strongly dislike those poor people who allow things to get so bad that they feel the need to kill  another person over a few dollars.  THAT I despise. >:(


No I didn't I've said that from the start.

With these choices, I felt that the American black man only needed to choose which one to get eaten by; the liberal fox or the conservative wolf because both of them will eat him.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 10:47:04 am »
No I didn't I've said that from the start.



Well, alright, you're asking about a child between the ages 1-4 (pre-school) would possibly have health problems then the discussion becomes another issue not concerning HypeStyle's article about:

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Just the other day, a new federally funded pilot program has been announced for this fall. All children in the Detroit Public Schools (DPS) system will be given free lunch. Up until now, reportedly 78% of children in DPS were eligible for free breakfast & lunch, but one challenge in that was the ongoing stigma among children associated with being ‘on the free lunch’, and many opt not to get it to 'save face'; also some parents are neglectful and do not fill out the paperwork for clearance.


I honestly don't know what kind of health problems would occur.

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Re: Should all urban kids get free meals?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 10:55:46 am »
But where I'm coming from are the days before they go to school: Ages 1-4 wouldn't these kids have health problems?


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